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  • #68236
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    He was trying to capture Barriss though, he was clearly enraged by what she did as well so yes if he was actually going to kill her I think that fight would have been over sooner.

    Vader is more powerful then Anakin… He’s a lot stronger and his cybernetic parts increase his strength. Even in TCW you see him use his cybernetic hand to crush things sometimes that he wouldn’t have been able to do normally. Vader no longer relies so much on the force and instead perfects his use of the lightsaber

    #68238
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    He was trying to capture her, yes, but he could still have disarmed her or cut off her hand or something. She was holding her own quite well.

    His cybernetic parts increase his physical strength. He can chop or slash with more force, but his potential to use the Force was decreased dramatically when he became a cyborg. And the way he is built also decreases his agility and makes him slower. He’s still extremely dangerous, but probably easier to run away from.

    (On another note – how stupid is the Fifth Brother? His fighting style is ridiculous and Ahsoka was literally toying with him. Only the Seventh Sister actually put up a fight.)

    #68240
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    How do his cybernetic parts decreae his ability to use the force?

    #68241
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    Other than the lightning thing, which could mess with his parts.

    #68243
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    He actually became stronger in the force when he was Vader, he learned to do more and increased his power with many abilities.

    Anakin’s force potential is higher then Vaders obviously but in actual practice it isn’t. Anakin was held back a lot because too much power would have consumed him, he could have easily been the most powerful Jedi by the time of ROTS if the Jedi just let him go off learning everything.

    Vader learned to do more, the only thing he couldn’t do was use Lightning as it would short circuit his systems. However the common belief that Vader is weak to lightning isn’t true, he’s just weak to Sidious Lightning because he is so powerful

    #68244
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    The Fifth Brother relies on strength but he’s still above the Seventh Sister obviously. I think he’s more powerful in the force however he just doesn’t use it…

    I think he’s better then Savage though

    #68246
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    I really don’t think physical strength matters that much in a lightsaber duel. I think the Force more or less evens that out. Otherwise Yoda would be at a huge disadvantage against everyone. And Grievous should be able to overpower most Jedi. But that’s not the case.

    I definitely think all the cybernetics limited Vader’s connection to the Force. He had the potential to pass Sidous and Yoda in ROTS but after Mustafar he lost too much. His ceiling became lower, lower than Yoda and Sidious. He was still incredibly skilled and he still improved for a while but he was never the same again. Never able to get as high as he would have pre-Mustafar.

    I think the Sister obviously is the more skilled of the two. While none of them had a chance at least the Sister wasn’t tossed into a wall everytime she charged.

    #68248
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    Physical strength certainly does matter, Savage throws most people around every time he hits. Unless you’re really powerful like Sidious then you cant use the force to make up all your strength. There’s no way you can make me believe that Ahsoka can match Vaders strength through the force. Vaders overpowers people by locking lightsabers and then the other person has a hard time getting out of it.

    Grievous doesn’t rely on his strength that much, he actually does fight with a certain set of technique and uses his strength else where like with his free hands or his feet/ legs.

    The injuries only limited his actual potential but he still ended up becoming stronger then Anakin was. The only thing he couldnt do anymore was jump around a lot but he became a much smarter and less reckless fighter because of his injuries.

    #68249
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    Clone Wars Ahsoka vs Savage. Ahsoka would certainly lose due to Savages superior strength. It would pretty much be the same fate as Master Galia. Actually he would probably knock her out on the first few hits

    #68260
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    The less organic you are, the less in tune you are with the Force, I believe. Droids can’t use the Force for a reason – not organic at all.
    Anakin had the potential to do so much with the Force but his suit stopped him, and that’s how Palpatine kept Vader on a leash. If Vader is more powerful than Anakin, he would’ve been so much more dangerous and weak Jedi like Kanan and Ezra would not have escaped him. Except Vader isn’t more powerful than Anakin. He’s strong, but he fights like a statue and even old Ben Kenobi only got killed by him because the Jedi gave up.

    I do think physical strength matters (like Savage) but in the end if you’re stronger in the Force that’s what wins the fight.

    #68263
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    Anakin is so powerful though that the injuries did not slow him down to the extent you’re talking about. He was able to become stronger as Vader because he no longer was limited by the Jedi teachings.

    Kanan and Ezra escaped because he let them escape, I think that was pretty obvious. He even says to Palpatine that these Jedi could lead them back to more Jedi. Also Kanan and Ezra might have been the only people to have killed an Inquisitor, the Grand Inquisitor at that so I think Vader was expecting more from them but once he realized how weak they actually where then he was just messing around with them, showing Ezra how much more powerful the dark side was.

    #68268
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    I don’t think Jedi teachings limit you at all. They decide not to do some things, but I don’t think it limits them.

    #68269
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    Wrong thread.

    #68274
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    Anakin was held back from learning everything he could have, the Jedi didn’t want him to become to powerful or else it would have consumed him. He was very advanced.

    #68277
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    I don’t think power consumes. I think they taught him everything they could. The reason he fell to the Dark Side were personal issues.

    #68282
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    It would have consumed him if they let him learn lots more and let him have access to more.

    The reason he fell to the darkside was because Anakin was a dumbass or just poor story writing idk, to believe he could save Padme with some unknown power from the only guy who knew it died…

    #68288
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    That makes no sense, Yoda is 1/4th the size of other jedi. Physical size does not matter, losing the limbs takes nothing away, and neither should adding a suit.

    #68297
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    Physical size does not matter but strength doesn play a part

    #68375
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    That was actually a very good episode, as bad as his parents storyline was before they most certainly ended it in a very fitting way. I loved all the visions Ezra had and the one at the end was very good. The stuff with Kallus raiding the Rebels was pretty good as well, the Rebels are really on the ropes now but I see they got some new transports we haven’t seen yet.

    You know after not being on Lothal for about 8 episodes or so it’s actually kind of refreshing to see it again, I’m glad they didn’t spend the entire episode on it though.

    #68378
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    I think this was a better episode then last week TBH.

    Also this was the mid season finale, “The Secret of Prisoner X10” was just a different name for this episode.

    So that means there’s 11 episodes left after the break I think. 9 episodes have been released plus the movie as they call it (which is two more episodes). So total of 22. So yeah they got half ways through the season.

    #68426
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    Nice episode

    #69012
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    Description for next episode “A Princess in Lothal”

    “During the early rebellion against the rule of the Galactic Empire, Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan is sent to the planet Lothal on a mission to provide ships for the rebel fleet. When the Empire initiates a lockdown, her plan is thrown into jeopardy”

    DF said this is her only episode this season.

    #69013
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    Her model looks really good, a lot like young Carrie Fisher. So Leia is like 17.

    #69014
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    Wow, I’m actually impressed by the animators with designing her.

    So I’m guessing Carrie will be sitting this one out then?

    #69015
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    I agree, she does look much like Carrie Fisher. Her design is less cartoon-y than the other characters.

    #69023
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    I think Lando’s is really good as well. Ahsoka isn’t that cartoon-y. Neither is Kanan that much but everyone else is.

    Yeah Carries voice now days doesn’t fit it the part at all, so I assume she isn’t coming back.

    #69024
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    Preview was released a few hours ago

    #69025
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    Oh wow they got SWTOR Republic vessels

    #69076
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    So wookiepedia has a lot more episode names up and dates, might not all be true but they haven’t been wrong yet so no reason to believe other wise. No descriptions except the episode next week but we already know that one .

    Episode 10 – A Princess in Lothal – January 20th

    Episode 11 – The Protector of Concord Dawn – January 27th

    Episode 12 – Legacy of Lasan – February 3rd

    Episode 13 – The Call – February 10th

    Episode 14 – Homecoming – February 17th

    Episode 15th – The Honourable Ones – February 24th

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Rebels_Season_Two

    Any predictions from the names? Episode 12 is obviously about Zeb, perhaps he’s now the last Lassat. I feel like “The Call” may be about Lando or something with Ahsoka. Homecoming is most likely Sabine with the mandalorians.

    Also Concord Dawn is the planet where Rako Hardeen and Jango Fett are from, could be something cool there. Perhaps even Rako Hardeen since he should probably be alive still.

    #69116
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    OMG, the mid-season 2 trailer!!!!!

    https://twitter.com/starwars/status/688093316966035457

    Rebels is totally The Clone Wars II. And it’s better because of that. But wow, this looks interesting. Anakin, Yoda, Temple Guards, Ahsoka vs Vader (or a vision?) but wow….

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