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  • #69118
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    You’d think it was season 3’s trailer there’s so much content thrown in there 😛

    Like Nam said, it’s officially become TCW MKII, but that’s what makes it good. Clearly Dave’s after my heart by throwing in Old Republic Hammerheads 😛 And did anyone for a moment think Maul was Snoke? Either which way, it caught me completely off guard.

    #69121
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    Here’s the non link one

    #69125
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    Well that’s a lot to take in…

    – Maul looks really good, perhaps the best looking character, I mean we could only see his face but still it looks a lot like it should. I think it may only be a Holocron though since Ezra has a Sith Holocron in his hand right before he appears… Sith holocrons are pyramid in shape and not a cube like Jedi ones. Which if it’s only a Holocron that leaves room for perhaps Dooku, Bane or maybe lots of other Sith.

    – The Jedi Cult is interesting. I have a feeling they’re not Jedi though but just know how to use a sword well, no force abilities or very limited force abilities. It was said we would learn about the Grand Inquisitors background right? Perhaps he was a temple guard.

    – The Cross Saber… Hmm I have a feeling this order of Ren in TFA stretches back a lot further then we have first believed, perhaps these Jedi where another earlier variation of the order?

    – Looks like we’re gonna see lots more Vader which will be awesome and Anakin as well.

    – Love the Hammerhead SWTOR cruisers, DF is really working the corners to make a lot of the old stuff that he probably loved canon again.

    – I wonder what that planet it with the temple… Looks like there may be multiple though. Want to say one is likely Korriban or perhaps Ziost, it looks like EU Ziost TBH,

    #69126
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    As somewhat mediocre first half of season 2 looks like it will turn into a similar style second half season 3 of TCW.

    However pretty sure Lando was said to come back as well later this season

    #69127
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    Or maybe that’s just Mauls voice now, got to remember he’s like 55-60 at this time and for that reason it makes me believe that it isn’t a Holocron as a Holocron is really just a memory unit. Ezra had the Obi-Wan Holocron which was ROTS Obi-Wan.

    This can’t be a Holocron of Maul that was recorded during TCW if he’s a lot older now.

    #69128
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    I don’t think the Inquisitor was a Jedi. He’s not skilled enough for that IMO. It would be a terrible Temple Guard if a guard can be defeated by a Padawan with 6 months Padwan training and around a decade not doing anything Jedi related as experience.

    I’m worried about the Maul thing. I get DF wants closure to him but I’m not sure I like that he’s survived this long if he has. His model looks good though. I hate Yoda’s and Anakin’s isn’t great either.

    Looks like Ahsoka will have a much bigger presence in the second half too. I’m looking forward to her scenes talking about Anakin and of course their duel will be epic. I wonder if she’ll reveal Vader’s identity to Kanan. My guess is no.

    #69130
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    I don’t think the Temple Guards where meant to be skilled at all or even be strong in the force. I’d say they where more for show if anything, they could last and control a riot or something but against Sith or actual Jedi Masters they would get cut down.

    I think Maul is sort of fine, he’s in exile obviously same as Yoda and Obi-Wan but I wonder why he has revealed himself, how has Ezra found him, if it was even intentional to find him. Perhaps Ahsoka is looking for allies to fight the Sith by trying find all and any force users… Stumbling upon Maul is either a mistake (she didn’t know who he actually was) or it’s a desperate attempt at assistance.

    Yoda looks like a younger version of himself but it obviously isn’t the real Yoda either just an allusion I believe. Anakin looks ok IMO but his clothing is weird.

    Well I don’t think Vaders identity is as secret as we may believe, a lot of the 501st legion should know who he is during operation Knightfall, Bail Organa may know who Vader truly is.

    #69135
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    Kind of stupid to have the crossguard lightsaber be a lightsaber design on purpose. The crossguards are exhausts because Kylo’s lightsaber is made from an unstable crystal – he didn’t add them for design, so why are these made for design?

    I didn’t even realize that was Maul. :facepalm: It does look like him now.

    But remember, how much of this is a vision? Are the two Inquisitors actually fighting Temple Guards or are they part of a vision, like Kanan’s? Is Ahsoka actually facing Vader? (actually, I think that one is happening)

    #69138
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    Well I think this “Order of Ren” is probably pretty ancient and has been shaped into many forms or variations of itself over the years. The crossguard saber may be there kind of symbol. Also I think Kylo’s is different it sort of has weird pulses going through it. I don’t think the one Ezra activated is like that.

    Look at the blade it isn’t fine or anything like a normal saber.

    The roughness of the blade is from the unstable crystal I believe…

    #69139
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    I don’t think they would showcase lots of things in this trailer as a vision though, there’s no reason to hype up a vision that much. And why do you think any of it is a vision? Just curious I haven’t heard anyone else say that yet.

    Pretty sure they got Witner doing Maul again which is nice, he has a bit of an older voice but you can really tell its him when he says “master” in that aggressive tone.

    I’m not sure of that is Matt Latner as Anakin though

    #69142
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    Exactly! Kylo’s lightsaber is unstable which is why it NEEDS the two exhaust things. These ones aren’t like that.

    A lot of it seemed very vision-based. The way I saw it was that Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra plus the two Inquisitors traveled to that Sith-looking world and witnessed all of those visions. idk. Seemed very Mortis-like, or like the Yoda arc.

    #69144
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    I think a main character has to die this season… I’m going to say Zeb or Kanan are most likely. Rex is very possible as well but I don’t think he’s a very significant character in this show. Kallus is probably done for, there’s only so many times you can fail in the Empire before enough is enough…

    #69145
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    Well Kylo’s saber, more specifically his lightsaber CRYSTAL, NEEDS the vents, he can’t have a normal saber with the crystal he is using because it’s unstable, broken, fractured whatever.

    But you could still have a lightsaber like the cross guard with a normal Crystal can you not? However on the one Ezra has the side guards are really just for show and not there because of an unstable Crystal if you get what I’m saying.

    None of it seemed very vision like to me but the planet they’re on is probably very strong in the darkside. Also what is that ring planet? I want to say it’s Geonosis at first but I’m pretty sure it’s Korriban since in the SWTOR trailer Korriban has asteroids around it, not that many though

    #69147
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    One thing that I see every time I watch this show is how the animation is a step or three down from TCW. Yoda and Anakin look horrible especially Yoda. You can tell the creativity of the people involved is being constrained.

    #69148
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    After watching the trailer numerous times I think Yoda looks fine actually, it looks more like OT Yoda which makes sense given this is 3 years before the OT.

    Anakin is weird…

    #69149
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    Interesting interview with Filoni http://www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-rebels-gallery

    Makes me think Ahsoka will die this season. Which will be heartbreaking. (But if Ahsoka “has” to die, so do Kanan and Ezra)

    Yes, that’s the point with Kylo’s lightsaber, that the vents were a necessity and not a design accessory. But I guess some lightsabers are also like that by design.

    Yoda looks creepy to me.

    #69151
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    Ahsoka has to die because she’s a lot more advanced in the force… I think Ezra has to die as well because he is learning quite fast however it seems like he may be able to be turned and become an inquisitor perhaps?

    Kanan is interesting at first I thought he had to die but I don’t think he has to now, Kanan actually has practical skills since he gave up his way for so long. He could probably just go back to being a scoundrel if he really wanted to.

    #69152
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    They couldn’t animate Anakin in Jedi robes because they use all the money for Vaders cape lol… I remember that was the reason Dooku couldn’t have robes in TCW though when ever Sidious was around.

    #69155
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    But Kanan is a Jedi who is actively fighting against the Empire. They know who he is. They’re not going to forget about him. And it would be an asshole move of him to just run away.

    #69157
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    He ran away before he could do so again if he had too, but Kanan isn’t a guy the Sith will hunt to the ends of the galaxy like Ahsoka or Kenobi

    #69162
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    Some predictions that may be less likely to happen…

    – the dark, rocky planet with the Lightning is Malachor. In the EU it’s a very dark side oriented location and matches what we seen in the trailer. Besides they already took the Hammerhead cruisers and the Makeb design from KOTOR/ SWTOR.

    – Maul is the one that kills Ahsoka and Vader kills Maul. We will also see the darksaber again.

    – These new Mandalorians were formally death watch, we likely get to know what happended to Mandalore with the conflict there. Perhaps even learn about Bo-Katan or maybe Bo is even still alive?

    – One of Zeb, Ezra or Kanan does this season

    #69163
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    Even though I want Maul to die, I think it’s only acceptable if it’s Vader or Obi-Wan giving the final blow and under present circumstances only one is actively available

    #69168
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    Maul kills Ahsoka? No. It would just be too random and cheap. If anyone gets to kill Ahsoka, it should be a sacrifice or have her get killed by Vader. Anyone else killing her would be anti-climatic.

    If these Mandalorians are Death Watch, Maul could play a part with them.

    #69171
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    I don’t think any main character will die. Rebels isn’t dark enough to kill of Zeb or someone like that.

    I hope Ahsoka kills one of the Inquisitors or maybe Maul.

    Could be fun to see Bo-Katan again 🙂

    #69172
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    I think Rebels is dark enough to do that as long as it’s not in a very violent way… There are some pretty dark moments for Disney XD. The Inquisitor decapitating those officers comes to mind.

    I will hate it if Ahsoka kills Maul, she’s not powerful enough to kill a full Sith Lord. Only Obi-Wan or Vader should be able to do that. Obviously Sidious as well but I think he’s had his shot already, technically Obi-Wan has as well but he actually killed him the first time.

    Yeah she still could be alive I think

    #69173
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    And that moment with the officers was the same as Savage decapitating the Black Sun as it was both sort of off screen but we where still right there

    #69177
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    I just think it’ll be different if it’s a main character. I don’t see that happening but I want it to happen because Zeb should die.

    The blu-ray showed the Black Sun bodies 😛

    I think Ahsoka could be strong enough to kill a Sith now. Especially a weakened one like I think Maul is.

    #69181
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    But not the actual decapitations.

    I don’t think she is and she never even became a Jedi knight. She didn’t teach herself that much since The Wrong Jedi. Plus it would just suck to have Maul come back and die to someone like Ahsoka. Has to be Vader IMO.

    There’s nothing between Ahsoka and Maul however there is a bit with Vader and Maul because of Sidious. There was actually an EU comic where Sidious set up an allusion of a Maul and he fought Vader, Maul said he was going to take his place and all and that Vader is still too Jedi like, too light sided still. I think something like that could happen in Rebels.

    #69185
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    No not the lightsaber slicing through their heads. They showed the bodies clearly without heads while they fell to the ground. Neither CN or DXD would show that on their channels, but I like that they put those things on the blu-ray. Rebels is definitely darker now than a year ago, but I still don’t see them cutting out a main character. They still seem fairly reluctant to have on screen deaths unless it’s a stormtrooper getting shot.

    She was close to Knight status though. At that point I think her training was close to complete and it really mostly came down to experience for her to be ready for the Trials. After that you still just training on your own and experience to reach your full potential and a think Ahsoka’s potential in the Order was very high. And if she had the potential to become a Master/Council member there’s no reason why she wouldn’t have the potential to maybe beat Maul IMO.

    There might not be anything between them, but emotionally I don’t think there’s much between Vader or Maul either. At most it would be something about saying that I’ll finish my Master’s job or something. If Maul is seducing Ezra that could make it a bit personal for Ahsoka, so that’s basically the same. Unless Sidious or Obi-Wan do it (which they won’t) there isn’t really anyone who would make Maul’s death very emotional. So my as well let Ahsoka do it to give her a big kill which she never got in TCW. Especially if Vader might kill her later in the season.

    #69186
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    Ahsoka can kill one of the inquisitors but Maul isn’t her kill. Ahsoka just isn’t there to kill a big name like Maul.

    She never deserved a big kill in TCW either… She got her ass kicked by Barriss who really wasn’t that much more advanced. Who was she actually going to kill that would be realistic?

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