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  • #63037
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    I still thinks it’s a weird way to use Aegon, but if it’s the only way I guess I’ll live with it.

    I don’t see why LSH would be something big, unless he means big as in the impact it’ll have on fans, because she’s not a hard character to do.
    At this point I’m not waiting for LSH. She’ll show up if she does, if not…oh well.

    Sometimes IMDB is inaccurate if they need to hide a character as a surprise. Karsi has already been removed from the cast list. Maybe because it was a mistake or maybe to hide the surprise.

    The finale is 1:03, so it’s a bit longer than usual.

    I think everyone gets time in the episode. Dorne, KL, Winterfell, Wall, Braavos, Meereen are all confirmed.

    #63042
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    I’ll still be on the LSH hype train even if she doesn’t show up tomorrow. sigh.

    I’m so excited! Benjen Stark was apparently in the previews.

    #63044
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    Who’s Benjen? Is that the one who went missing beyond the wall or one of Ned’s other Brothers or something

    #63045
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    Like last week I’ll probably catch one of the later viewings rather then the early 7PM one.

    #63046
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    Yep, Ned’s brother who went missing beyond the Wall.

    I’m so excited.

    #63048
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    I’m going to watch the early showing in an hour 🙂 I’ll do homework after…

    #63049
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    That finale actually kind of sucked IMO… Probably the worst in the show to go along with the worst season.

    Too many storylines made the episode all over the place and things happened really fast with very little in the way of answers, there isn’t much I liked at all.

    We have no clue if Stannis actually died tbh I don’t think he did and he pulled some kind of move like I think he may have ducked and Briennes sword hit the tree while he then stabbed her.

    Why did the sorceress actually abandon him as well… And where did Davos go while they all stabbed Jon. And what was that with his blood at the end? I think she may revive him or something idk.

    I was right that Theon would help Sansa though everybody at school said I was crazy for that but then they just jump the wall… They either landed in deep snow or died.

    The Arya stuff was kind of weird. The Dany stuff was pretty weird as well and I don’t think she was in Westeros those horse people don’t seem right…

    Idk nothing seemed right with this episode, it was just all over the place. The Cersei stuff might have been the most competent thing of them all but I’m glad she got that, I don’t like here.

    Oh the Tyrion scene with Varys… Yeah that was the best part by far. Plus the conversation before with Jorah.

    #63050
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    Wait maybe that’s why she went to the wall cause she knew that would happen to Jon and she can benefit or something…

    #63051
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    Oh I didn’t mind the Jaime scenes as well those were pretty good but I knew she poisoned her when she kissed her on the lips for like 10 seconds

    #63052
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    BRIENNE DID THE THING AND VARYS DIDN’T DO THE THING

    Nope. Stannis is dead. He wouldn’t kill Brienne, and he’s lost everything anyway.

    Dany just met the Dothraki.

    But idk how I feel about the episode. I expected so much more.

    #63053
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    But yeah I consider Stannis to be alive, I don’t think he died. He’s a pretty important character when he actually dies they will show it fully. Unless they show it at the start of season 6 but I’d say it more likely Brienne died.

    #63054
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    I expected it to be at least a bit better… But I had low expectations given season 5 has been bad.

    I don’t think he’s dead, he might be but I’m not ruling him out as being alive.

    #63055
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    If people consider the Hound to be alive then I’d say it’s more likely Stannis pulled some weird shit out his ass and did something

    #63056
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    Also saw a comment about that guy with the eye patch who got revived by the lord of light a lot so yeah Jon didn’t die 😛 I don’t think anyone believes that.

    If Stannis men didn’t leave him he would have crushed them.

    #63057
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    Some people actually believe Theon and Sansa died… Did they see the snow up against the wall? It was actually pretty high probably from wind blowing it there.

    Tbh the Myrcella scene might have been the saddest of the show

    #63058
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    It was a good finale, but not perfect.

    The Jon scene was handled pretty well. It wasn’t how it happened in the books but still sad and I’m happy they stuck to the book line. Too many times the show does a good book scene but fails to realize how important the dialogue is to those scenes.
    I wish Thorne hadn’t been in on it. Back when Olly was getting into it I really hoped he’d take the spot from Thorne, but they just ended up doing it both.
    Mel returned to Castle Black which makes me think that it’s necessary. So my guess is that she will revive Jon, no intervening from the Others or anything.

    Myrcella’s death was very sad, but it seems a bit pointless. Jaime’s ship will turn around and Doran will likely execute Ellaria. He should in any case.
    Oh and that Tyene line is a contender for dumbest line of the year along with almost everything else the Sand Snakes have said.

    Stannis is likely dead. If he isn’t it’s because Brienne didn’t kill him, not because he pulled of something. He was wounded twice and was sitting down. No way he escapes. Anyway the death didn’t feel like a victory or anything even after what Stannis did last week.
    No clue what’s up with Mel though and why she decided to run off so quickly.

    For a while there I thought Trant was going to admit Syrio didn’t die, but that didn’t happen. Arya is a bit scary. And it was surprising that they jumped back to a book element with the blindness.
    I’m gonna assume that the Jaqen Arya met in season 2 is not the same guy she’s with now.
    WinterisComing also had some good points about the Arya stuff that I agree with. The poisoned masks was a cool touch, but the Waif turning into Jaqen was stupid since they don’t have the same bodies. And Arya’s face being one of the masks was weird too.

    Still don’t know how I feel about the Sansa stuff. I didn’t really make me feel much at all. In the books they survive because they land in a snowdrift.

    Biggest disappointment of the episode for me might have been Varys showing up in Meereen. I like him and Tyrion together, but I still wanted Varys in KL.

    Dany met up with the Dothraki 🙂 But Dragon should have been with her. One theory is that they’re going to do a big search and rescue plot and Jorah and Daario will find the ring she dropped, a bit like in LoTR. I don’t really feel the need for something like that.

    Cersei finally got what she had coming. They handled it well.

    No Stoneheart scene. I’m gonna stop believing in that now. If it happens fine, but I’m over it. Since this season started Arianne beat her as my most missed book character anyway.

    #63059
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    Also like Pinda said on the AG, Mel was probably right about the burning flags as Littlefinger still marches with an army towards Winterfell and he will be new warden of the North. The Boltons where dumb to attempt a frontal assault they lost so many men and horses when they could have did a pretty good defence from the wall.

    I can’t wait to see Tyrion rule again but it’s not Kings landing…

    Also the Wildlings have no reasons to keep peace with crows now that Jon is dead… And they can’t defend the southern part of the wall well.

    #63060
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    Littlefinger is too smart to March an army North through the snow. And he can’t even march into the North. No army has ever invaded the North because no one can get past Moat Cailin which is the only way in or out of the North and that castle is controlled by the Boltons.

    #63061
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    The wildling’s reaction to Jon’s death could be interesting. Even if Mel revives him things will happen up there unless Jon leaves the Wall.

    #63064
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    Fine, maybe Stannis ISN’T dead, but it would make no sense at all for Brienne to be killed by him. She was heavily armoured and healthy, he was injured and weak. Not to mention they emphasized how ready he was to die. He lost his heir, his Queen, his army, and even Mel left him. Stannis is done. I didn’t like how quick his end was, so maybe he isn’t dead, but there’s no point in killing Brienne. The plot can’t do anything with Stannis anymore.

    So in the end, Sansa’s arc disappointed me. She’s just a victim who needs to be saved. Completely different from where her book arc is headed. And forget what the creators and Sophie Turner said last season, that Sansa would become powerful and would use her sexuality to get what she wants. No. She got raped and lost. Didn’t even get Winterfell herself. When Mel talked about burning Bolton banners, I was excited. I thought Stannis would be marching in a cool battle as Sansa starts rebelling from within. So when Stannis comes through, Lady Sansa Stark of Winterfell comes to greet him.
    Nope. The producers are trying too hard to emphasize that everybody dies and the bad guys can win. Yes, bad guys can win. The books highlight that. But they also give some victories to the good guys.
    And fine, maybe expecting a lot from Sansa is unfair. Maybe the point really was just to bring Theon back. But they messed that up too. One episode, he’s still loyal to Ramsay. And then he randomly gets himself back and saves Sansa? It all happened TOO FAST.

    You know something’s wrong with an episode when the most entertaining part was Dorne. That “bad pussy” line was so cringeworthy that I just had to laugh and enjoy it. Sigh. At least Myrcella’s death was an actual shock and Ellaria being behind it was kind of cool. I seriously don’t know where the heck they’re taking Dorne, but this show is a mess.
    Never cared much for Myrcella so I’m not that sad.

    Arya’s scenes this season aren’t the coolest, but I liked when she killed Meryn.

    I liked Meereen this episode. Hopefully Tyrion fixes the city. “My Valyrian is a bit nostril” made me laugh.
    But why the heck is Varys in Meereen. Like wtf. Is he expecting Dany to allow him back? I hope she does, but he should’ve been in KL. If the producers want shock value, the Varys scene would have been perfect.

    Even Jon’s scene was kind of weak. It happened so quickly. But I guess that’s what you get when they fit two books into one season.
    So, in the end, this finale has no real rewatch value. No scene I’m excited to see again. It was so quick and messy.

    AND NOT EVEN STONEHEART GURL WTF

    #63065
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    They killed Joffrey in Season 4, then Myrcella in Season 5, so Tommen will die in Season 6.

    #63068
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    Sansa and Dorne have just been massive disappointments. Dorne was hyped so much for finally joining the show and it was just dull. Sansa was hyped by the showrunners and Sophie and nothing happened. The sexuality part was especially disappointing. The only part of her story that related to her sexuality was when she got raped. Hardly an example of Sansa using it to her advantage. I was expecting some sort of seductress Sansa using it to get what she wants.
    Dark Sansa is MIA.

    I didn’t even enjoy Dorne this time. I was expecting Ellaria to not give up so when she kissed Myrcella I knew something would happen. Pretty much nothing enjoyable came from that story the entire season. At least the Sansa stuff had it’s occasional moments.

    I didn’t really enjoy Meereen either. The stuff with Tyrion and the others was fine, but I would have traded it for a bit more from another storyline.

    I don’t think 2 deaths is really enough to call a trend yet Nam 😛

    #63071
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    Myrcella isn’t confirmed to be dead though she could be just like paralyzed or something… After all The Mountain didn’t die from poison.

    Now that lady will be executed though if Jaime turns around.

    Nothing about this season was really good except the King of the Dead.

    The fucking Cersei scenes took up a third of the episode…

    #63072
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    I’m very much looking forward to seeing Tyrion rule that’s what I want to see most… And I love the conversations he has with Varys

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=nr7wJ_GfPdY

    This one was quite similar to last episode

    #63082
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    I was reading an analysis of Sansa, and there are so many ways it could have gone. She could’ve hurt relations between Roose and Ramsay or seduced Ramsay and convinced him to kill Myranda, things like that. But the Boltons seem unstoppable on the show.

    2 deaths out of 3 😉

    Myrcella is dead. Already foretold by the prophecy.

    #63085
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    and this is true http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/39xbe6/spoilers_all_the_reason_bad_things_happen_on_got/

    GRRM is telling a realistic story, while D&D just love shocking everyone. They probably really loved it when people went crazy after the RW and thought that more shocks like this would keep the story going. The RW was great, and it made sense, but now they keep hurting the good guys just to feed the show’s reputation that everybody dies in it and the bad guys can win too. Except the bad guys CAN win… and the good guys can’t. Ever.

    I just hate how invincible the Boltons are. Heck, in the books, Ramsay isn’t even that intelligent.

    #63090
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    I kind of like Ramsay now, I need to make a new top character list

    #63108
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    Myrcella got the same poison as Bronn so without an antidote she’s dead.
    The Mountain (at least in the books) did die. He’s more like a zombie.

    I thought the Cersei scene was solid. I don’t mind they take their time on a scene but sadly it takes time from other stuff.

    Brienne could Perry much just have been cut from the season.

    Still not enough to conclude Tommen will die next year 😛 Though if they plan on 7 seasons it’s pretty likely.

    #63110
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    Personally of all the deaths in the Season 5 finale Stannis’s didn’t bother me at all. From the moment he murdered Shireen his family was doomed. Goodbye house Baratheom. Gentry is its only heir now. Next I go to Sir Meran Trant. Absolutely loved his death and it was well deserved, The same can go to Myranda all thought I wish her death was longer. 2 deaths however really bothered me. First of all I can’t believe that Myrcella died just like that after that beautiful moment with Jamie. I hope next season there’s someway she survives like maybe Trystane had the antidote the whole time. I can only hope. Finally is the death of Jon Snow. I believe Melisandre will resurrect him with magic. this is where Maester Aemon’s line ‘Kill the Boy and let the Man be born” comes in. Maybe this is the death of th boy Jon snow and later Melisandre resurrects him into Jon Targaryen. Also when they burn his body he may not burn if he is a true Targaryen. We can only wait and see. 9 months to. And now my watch begins. 🙂

    #63111
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    What do you guys think?

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