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  • #74828
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    Well I think the reason this show has been working so well is the light hearted, humor involved in it. It’s definitely a nice change of pace from Arrow or The Flash and when you’re traveling to all these great places in time, it’s nice to have fun with it IMO

    Mick has obviously been the highlight for humor but everyone else is able to chip in with more serious but kind of awkward remarks that turn out to be hilarious.

    #74891
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    This was a fantastic episode IMO… I love how we really got to see everything from the Villains perspective this time (for the most part).

    The clash between Damien and Malcom was cool and then with Thawne at the end and the 3 man team up.

    It seems a lot of people think Legends is becoming the best DC show so far in the current seasons, I’m inclined to agree.

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    #74894
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    Loved that episode too. Had the balance of humour and seriousness that I was hoping last week’s would have but oh well. Nice that we properly got some explanation in reference to the Reverse Flash’s presence in relation to Flash along with another Flash tie in which I wasn’t expecting. Loved the narration from Damien at the start as well, was a nice way to immediatly show this episode wasn’t gonna be like the others although I think they missed a trick having him not say “so please, don’t call us heroes” because they really aren’t xD

    And I think I’d agree with that too tbh. It has it’s off days but the majority of this season has been excellent and this episode has given me hope that it’ll stay that way. Arrow’s improved greatly in it’s fifth season (although I wasn’t overly fond of last week’s episode) and while Flash has been going downhill compared to it’s last two seasons it’s still very good in my eyes. And that image is pure genius. Hilarious stuff, even though Malcolm isn’t the one in the middle sadly but given the dynamics of the Legion at the moment I think that set up works out better xD

    #74927
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    I loved the villain perspective in this episode, what kinda irked me is that Stein should have known about Thawn for awhile. It’s like they had this guessing game just to have Sara, Vixen, Nate, Ray be relevant for some reason.

    Wasn’t really needed the Villain, Jax/ Stein focus was enough IMO

    #74947
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    From one of the best episodes to one of the worst in my opinion. Turncoat had a lot of problems and while evil Rip was enjoyable I feel like it was a waste for him to be revealed to the team that early. He should’ve been working with the team and then betray them when they least expect it. Nate and Amaya stuff was pointless although I’m happy they appear to be going no further with that. Mick was easily the best part of the episode. That opening monologue was hilarious and that stuff with Washington was great. Sara nearly dying then actually dying but being bought back to life was just odd. Jax had some good character stuff with Rip but it was poorly written and kept going round in circles. Stein was stuck taking care of Sara and Ray’s role in it was forgettable also. Hopefully the next episode will be more like The Legion of Doom than Turncoat cos I don’t think I could handle another episode like that.

    #74948
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    Yup just saw Turncoat and umm… very odd episode. It certainly had its moments, practically everything with Rip as the focus was pretty well done. This was probably Arthur Darvils best performance of the show IMO. But I do agree it kinda felt weird revealing him now. Not getting a little ending scene with the villains really had me disappointed tbh… I really wanted to see Rip come back successful with the trio.

    As for the heroes. Sara stuff was weird, she’s died a lot now lol. Nate and Vixens relationship felt forced to me in all honesty. Ray did nothing.

    I do feel like Jax and Stein are both getting much needed development these past few weeks. I felt they where largely ignored/ not utilized in season 1. Both where good this episode.

    Mick and Washington was the highlight, and of course the humor. “You represent what every American should strive to be” had me 🙂

    #74949
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    It’s been a reoccurring problem since episode 1 of the show but the cast is just too big too have them utilized every episode despite the producers best efforts to force it.

    And it’s harder when we don’t really have a main protagonist, that Oliver Queen or Barry Allen figure.

    I do enjoy every member of the cast, but the producers need to find a better way to manage it IMO. There’s a few episodes I can think of that they did it well. The one with the Pilgrim in season 1 is probably the first that comes to mind

    #74950
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    Arrow and Flash are starting to encounter similar problems to lesser extents with their expanding casts on the hero sides

    #74998
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    It was a good episode… but I don’t understand why the Legion can not utilize their entire team every week however the legends do despite it being forced due to a larger group.

    I understand Thawne not being as involved but Malcom should have been in this, and I think it was such a missed opportunity not having him be Merlin :/

    #75001
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    Yeah, while enjoyable it had it’s problems. And ikr, Malcolm not being in this at all was a huge missed opportunity. I mean the character he’s based off in the comics is called Arthur King. Arthur bloody King. And they decide not to use him in this episode for no good reason? I suppose John Barrowman could’ve had other commitments but I’ve not clue what they could be. I mean I suppose there is the fourth piece still to find so the Legion could’ve divided their forces but still feels odd. Hopefully Legends will be able to get back to the consistent quality it was at earlier in the season as after a break next week we’ve got a five week uninterrupted run right up to the end of the season.

    #75002
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    I thought about them diving their forces and Malcom and Thawne going after the other piece but it just doesn’t make sense. It’s an opportunity for another episode plot.

    And so far Rip has been the cornerstone for the retrieval of every piece, he knows where they all are. I think he will likely get the Legends piece back from them again next week, or at least try.

    #75003
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    Well apparently episode fourteen, Moonshot, will feature the Legends and the Legion tracking down the last piece to NASA in the early seventies and will feature the return of Commander Steel. This’ll be nice to see as we’ll get to see Nate showing off his powers to his granddad. However, I’m still not sure about them using the Justice Society of America in this way. Also, surely taking these crucial people out of history would mess some things up. Vixen especially cos she definitely hasn’t had a child yet but does have a grandchild in present day. The reason Rip recruited the people he did at the start of season one and not people like the Green Arrow or the Flash is because he worked out that the Legend’s removal from the timeline had little to no affect of history. Maybe Rip will remind the of this if he get’s his mind unscrambled and that’ll lead to Vixen being forced to leave at the end of the season, who knows.

    #75104
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    Yeah they just addressed the Vixen issue this last episode… I think once the season is over. Rip may cut her from the team whether she’s willing or not. She’s too important to the timeline.

    Same as Damien though on the other side, they took 1988 Damien so he has to go back to his real timeline.

    I was just thinking since this season ends April 4th we may see Malcom back in arrow this season since Arrow doesn’t end till late May.

    #75105
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    But Thea had some issues last episode on Arrow… I’m thinking she might be on Legends season 3. If Vixen is gone they need a new female replacement. Thea knows Sara and kinda knows Ray. She could be a good choice and her purpose on Arrow has been very limited this season

    #75142
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    Interesting episode, I guess it’s somewhat true Thawne isn’t so much the bad guy compared to Dhark or Malcom, he just wants to live.

    Steel and Nate never really talked about his new powers which was kinda odd

    #75155
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    I’m happy to finally have another great episode again. Other than Legion of Doom all other episodes up to now this half of the season have been a bit lacklustre and while I’ve enjoyed them I still couldn’t get over quite a few of their problems. Moonshot’s finally got things back on track for me and hopefully it stays this way for the reason of the season.

    And yeah, it was good to finally get some character based stuff with Thawne. Although tbh I’d argue that it’s only really Darkh who’s a real bad guy as Malcolm’s motivation is to undo all the bad stuff that he did so he can get his son back. And yeah, they should’ve definitely discussed that, would only have taken about a minute of screen time, if that. Also, nice voice professor xD

    #75158
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    Malcolms motivation is to get Tommy back? I think I missed that part or just don’t remember.

    I agree a few of the episodes lately haven’t been very good, Camelot was prettt weird and the one inside Rips mind was just odd. I don’t like that Rip isn’t the captain anymore, he’s my favorite character and I enjoyed him in his season 1 role.

    It’s really pissing me off though that we don’t see the entire villains team every episode… what the hell are they doing. The legends always use their cast and the villains don’t. Malcom hasn’t been seen for how long now? Moonshot, Camelot, the American revolution episode and the prehistoric episode.

    4 episodes now without Malcom. Dhark was only in Camelot.

    #75159
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    It was mentioned in his first episode The Chicago Way in that scene he had with Sara where he talks about not sinking the Queen’s Gambit so that none of what followed ever happened to him or Sara.

    And yeah, I feel that Rip should go back to being captain by the end of the season as at the moment he sort of feels out of place but that does seem to be his arc for the rest of the season so at least it’s not being ignored.

    And yeah, that has been very odd and there’s been no good explanation as to what they’re doing though, especially in Camelot/3000. It kinda worked for me in Moonshot though as I don’t see where they could’ve fitted in without over bloating the story.

    Next week’s looking really good though and it seems the whole Legion will be there for that as we make the final sprint towards the finale.

    #75166
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    I think Sara could leave after this season or go back to Arrow, I think she definitely could make an Arrow cameo soon since this show ends almost 2 months before Arrow does.

    Well Dhark and Malcom I was thinking could have been in Stein/ Rory / Jax role in Moonshot calling the shots on the ground. In Camelot, Malcom should definitely have been there.

    #75192
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    Fellowship of the Spear was good, having all the villains finally was the best part. Smart and Rory really fit into the theme of the legion as both where also villains on The Flash.

    Finally they gave us an explanation as to what Dhark and Malcom have been doing.

    #75198
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    Not as good as Moonshot or The Leigon of Doom for me but still an okay episode. Ultimately I feel like it should’ve been two episodes though with a much more epic battle for the last two pieces at the Vanishing Point with the whole Leigon verses the whole of the Legends in the first episode, ending with the Legion recruiting Snart, followed by the main WWI story of this episode in the second one.

    As it was the retrieval of the last two pieces felt more like a case of the writers going “Oh wait, for this story the pieces need to be together and they’re half and half right now. Rip only mentioning the Legion’s location now rather than telling them when he first became good again was a bit odd. Was also a bit underwhelmed by Snarts return. Partly because we were promised him before the start of the season, got teased in the middle and are only now finally getting him, but also because the reveal itself was fairly weak but I like what they did with him and Mick.

    I’m looking forward to seeing where things go from here though although I’m worried that it’s too late for them to work Snart in to the Legion’s dynamic and them not just simply killing him and Mick rather than letting them wield the Spear was a bit off.

    #75200
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    Eh budgeting for Legends I guess. Kinda funny, Arrow and Flash and stuff have too many episodes a lot of the times but Legends could use just a few more. Episode balance just isn’t great in regards to story.

    Makes sense that they would be hiding at the vanishing point, Thawne is safe there I think. But I would have liked to have seen more of it, maybe flashbacks of some kind. And yeah the retrieval was under whelming. And I’m somewhat surprised Thawne didn’t notice Ray…. he did in Moonshot. Kinda dumb

    I’m fine with Snart now because well, we hardly gotten anything with Dhark and Malcom anyways. And Snart is established on this show whereas those two where not. Balances it a bit IMO.

    Like Snart said, plenty of power to go around and Thawne is still calling the shots obviously, he wouldn’t have a problem as long as he gets what he wants.

    #75201
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    Tbh I was expecting Vixen to go with them too… only for the purpose that she would be in a room with Thawne and she could try and stop them from the inside

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