A Song of Ice and Fire

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  • #66387
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    Yes he probably would. Question is how much Stark is left in him or how much has come back after his NW brothers betrayed him. If he hates the Boltons enough he might want to get rid of them. And the wildlings are a wildcard. I’m not sure who they would back (if any) if it came to civil war in the North.

    Yeah any of those would have known how to handle the Faith. Tywin would probably be better than Joffrey too 😛

    #66407
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    I’m assuming the Wildlings are loyal to Tormund and Jon now. So they would probably follow them. A lot of people theorize that the wildlings will fight the NW because of Jon’s death, so that shows their loyalty.

    Tywin would’ve stopped the Faith easily, and stopped Cersei’s craziness. 😛

    #66451
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    Yeah loyalty to Tormund/Jon makes more sense. The rest of the NW never really cared about them so no reason to back them.

    No he wouldn’t even have let it start, so nothing to stop 😛

    #66591
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    I just realized that Jon’s grandpa killed his other grandpa

    #66592
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    Which of the Game of Thrones novels is your favorite?

    #66593
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    The 3rd, a storm of swords.

    #66604
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    For me, it’s a tie between the 1st one, A Game of Thrones, and the 5th one, A Dance With Dragons. I read the 1st book the fastest of all 5 novels and I could not put it down. I loved the fifth one because I thought it was a more personal tale with a more emotional ending than the other ones, I think.
    But then you have A Storm of Swords which is so action-packed and amazing. And then there’s A Feast For Crows which has the most entertaining POV – Cersei. 😛
    They’re all amazing!

    #66610
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    I think my second would be the first one.

    #66612
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    But the first novel was a bit weird for me to read because I’d seen season 1 first.

    #66622
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    I wonder how it would feel to read the novels without seeing the show. I read the books after Season 4 (thanks to Zuma’s convincing) so all the characters and places I visualized using their show versions. Whereas I read LOTR before watching the films, so I visualized everything myself…

    #66635
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    I still haven’t read LOTR…
    I read HP before the movies and I’ve noticed that sometimes I dislike something in the movies that movie watchers only don’t have a problem with.

    That hasn’t been as bad with GoT because they’ve mostly stuck close to the books but this year I’ve been frustrated. But the biggest difference like you said is probably the way you picture certain characters and locations.

    I saw the Golden Compass before reading the book and liked it. After reading the book I hate it and consider it one of the worst adaptions I’ve ever seen.

    #66658
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    LOTR is a very heavy read 😛
    I read HP after watching the films but I love both the books and the films. The books are ultimately so much better but the movies are still good, and I don’t care about many of the changes because JKR accepted them.

    Yep, GoT S1-2 were basically the books and Seasons 3 and 4 were also strong. Season 5 suffered from stupid and unnecessary changes.

    But if you liked the movie, doesn’t that mean the movie alone is still good? 😛

    #66668
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    So I’ve heard which is part of the reason I always push it 😉

    I always get mad at the end of the last movie because it seems like every bad guy has to blow up.

    Not when you see what it really is supposed to be like. The amount of stuff they cut. It might work as a movie on its own but not as an adaption, they cut and changed too much for that.

    #66675
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    That’s true! Bellatrix and Voldemort both kind of suffered the same fate. One change I disliked in the films was Harry and Voldemort’s final showdown – it was in the Great Hall and I remember that many people were watching them fight, and it seemed so much more epic. Then in the film they were alone and outside.

    Ah. I haven’t seen or read The Golden Compass so idk. 😛

    #66682
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    Exactly! I liked how the books made a point of mentioning how small and unimportant Voldemort looked in death. Just a crippled body. But the movies had to make it “epic” by having him blow to atoms, which just further suggests that he, in fact, was a very special wizard.
    And same with Bellatrix. You have to worry about Molly Weasley’s abilities if she just blows up a person like that, but no it looked cool.

    I recommend it. They’re pretty short too. 3-400 pages if I remember correctly.

    #66684
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    Yes, it happened a lot better in the books. Voldemort and Harry began fighting BECAUSE Molly killed Bellatrix, but in the film they were totally unrelated.
    Personally, I still don’t see how Molly could’ve beaten Bellatrix, books or film. 😛 But the love of a mother is an important theme in the story so I guess Molly could’ve been more powerful protecting Ginny.

    I still haven’t read Warbreaker though. 😛

    #66688
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    Yeah the Molly thing was a surprise. OTOH have we ever been told that Bellatrix was an exceptional witch. She was insane and horrible and Voldemorts favorite, but I don’t remember if they ever said she was exceptionally skilled. And were we ever told that Molly wasn’t a powerful witch. Most of the time we just hear people like the Malfoys making fun of the Weasleys.

    I remember one moment I really wanted to see on screen was Voldemort vs McGonagall, Shacklebolt and Slughorn. It sounded so awesome, but then we never got it 🙁

    Warbreaker is still my favorite standalone novel 🙂

    #66692
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    I just assumed Bellatrix was an exceptional witch after what she did to both Frank and Alice Longbottom – both Aurors and members of the Order of the Phoenix.. but she didn’t do that alone so IDK. But everyone seems to fear her.
    As for Molly, yeah, she could be pretty powerful. I just assumed that Bellatrix could beat her because Bellatrix was bent on killing others – Molly didn’t fight very often.

    Yeah, the whole fight in the Great Hall was so much better in the book.

    I must read it!

    #66695
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    Yeah weren’t they like 5 people against Frank and Alice. We could tweet JKR and find out 😛 From what I’ve heard she’s pretty good at tweeting back.

    I’ve managed to convince two people to read it and they both liked it 🙂

    #66697
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    She’s really funny on Twitter, too.

    #66698
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    #68862
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    I hope that’s true. Then maybe he’ll go back to KL and the epilogue from DwD

    Not exactly good news, but if he though he could finish by October last year, maybe there’s a chance we can get it before the end of 2016 🙂
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/02/next-game-of-thrones-book-not-completed-martins-winds-of-winter-update?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=TV&utm_content=7&utm_campaign=Blogroll

    #68868
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    I think it’s safe to say that in a year, we’ll have read TWoW some time in 2016. Which isn’t BAD news, just sad since we’ll see Season 6 before it.

    #68878
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    I sure hope so. But yeah, would have been nice to get one last book that wasn’t spoiled by the show.

    #72329
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    #72330
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    I never liked Aegon’s addition to the story because it felt random, but do you know what else felt random? All the repetitions that Eddard and Ashara loved each other. So this ties in and I love it.

    #72334
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    It’s interesting but I’m not sure I’m buying it.

    I’m not sure I understood the part about Wylla. Even with his explanation of bringing Wylla down to Starfall, there’s still gonna be some time where Jon is without a wetnurse.
    And the biggest problem is that according to the wiki of ice and fire Ashara has dark hair. So where does Aegon get his blonde from?

    #72335
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    true… sigh… Unless it’s a recessive gene or something 😛

    #72339
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    Would be a pretty big trick by GRRM 😛
    I was wondering if the wiki might have been inaccurate or making an assumption with her hair, but it looks like a pretty big oversight to make in such a thorough theory.
    And he kinda ignored Arya because she doesn’t fit into his theory about Ned’s kids taking from their mothers 😉

    It seems more likely that Aegon just got picked up in Essos, but it would be interesting if there was more to him than that.
    But I also kinda like the thought of Ned being completely honorable 😛

    #72341
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    True. So what’s this romance with Ashara?
    I think Aegon – if this isn’t true, which it probably isn’t – is still a Blackfyre.

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